Work-in-progress - Making a P08 Luger magazine well assembly. Why? To use P08 Luger magazines, duh! I want a pistol caliber carbine that uses Luger magazines. But first, a quick look at my design process.
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Directory of old, obsolete files |
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Close enough to work with. |
I usually start out with a reference which I download from some online repository such as Grabcad. The P08 Luger frame I used may be in spec, but it does not translate directly 1:1 when printed. I used the magazine body to get a rough shape and worked from there. All those "p08_magwell_*" represents a test and a subsequent improvement. It's a slow and tedious process. I have also played around with a 3d-printed mag-catch but was unsatisfied with the results. I think one is possible, but it would not be compact - it would have to be some bulky AR-Glock mag style mag catch that sticks out of the side, which would be fine for a carbine design but not a compact pistol.
The current iteration utilizes a regular p08 mag catch and spring. I don't like the flat spring as you'll see below - it's really finicky. Actually - one of my previous designs uses a clever (if I do say so myself) install process where I got rid of the flat spring and utilized an AR15 disconnector spring. You just push the mag-catch deep in, rotate it and let go. But again, that needs more space for a coil-spring housing and it really gets in the way of the trigger finger. I guess those German engineers knew what they were doing.
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p08_magwell_1_02b - spring housing is off. |
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Added angular cut and some efficiency modifications. Also added spring channel. |
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Properly contoured to the p08 Luger - and it is print-efficient. |
The angle of the magazine is so extreme that it will not fit in a regular AR15 with a simple adapter block. The lower itself must be re-designed to fit the magazine. Eventually I will release the p08 magwell as a stand-alone model, my own custom version of U-Bolt AR15 lower, and a Sten magwell. My ultimate goal is design a semi-auto MP-18 that utilizes both p08 stick magazines and drum magazines. I don't think the original MP-18s took the stick mags, but mine will.
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Still have lots of work to do. |
See also: Glock magazine Sten on Reddit, which kind of inspired me.
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